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Dave Jones

Reading some of the USADA reports, it seems the drug testers at the time were some way behind the techniques used by the cyclists and teams. It seems almost comical how easy it was to beat the system in some cases - smuggling saline solution 'right under a testers nose', not answering the door to a tester, dropping out of a race if there was news 'on the grapevine' that a tester was coming. I wonder if the situation has changed in recent years and if testers have 'caught up'. Also, how can the testers know how far behind they actually are...

Floormaster Squeeze

The USADA was really important in establishing who cheated, how they cheated, and how much. I already understood the methods as they were widely reported in the better cycling press. The stuff that has come out recently about track makes me realize that catching someone doping is a pretty extraordinary thing given how easy it has been (is??) to use PEDs.

Your comment about lie detector tests is pretty interesting considering Armstrong's rhetorical gambit about "knowing he would pass a lie detector". I guess he is confident in his ability to lie (lots of practice) or is hoping for one more false positive.

I think your point about cycling being a "winner take all" system is spot on but that is one of the details that surprised me. Lance did not just want to dope to do better himself, he wanted/demanded that everyone dope in order that the team would support him better. This makes him pretty unusual and surprisingly evil in his (the other evil bits are his Machiavellian way of dealing with anyone who dared to tell the truth about him or the sport). This also lead to his demise (that and continuing to compete in USADA sanctioned running and triathlon to extend his statute of limitations).

Kaiser

Floormaster: one half of Chapter 4 is about steroids testing; the other half is about lie detector testing (and why it's not to be trusted). I think Lance's lawyer isn't going to like my book :)

zbicyclist

Nike has bailed out, as most know by now.

There will be no winner of 7 Tours -- in part of because all but one of the cyclists who shared the podium with Lance have also been suspended or at least heavily suspected of doping.

The UCI clearly didn't care (see Greg Lemond's rant: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2012/10/25/greg-lemond-says-corruption-is-the-problem-in-cycling-calls-for-uci-leaders-to-resign/ The money was good during this time. (similar story with baseball)

Drug Test Friend

Lance Armstrong's story is not an uncommon one in the athletics arena. The pressures brought on by the need to win can drive any good athlete to steroid use.

BarryV

It seems almost humorous how simple it was to defeat the program in some situations - smuggling saline remedy 'right under a evaluators nose', not responding to the entrance to a specialist, losing out of a competition if there was information 'on the grapevine' that a specialist was arriving. I wonder if the scenario has modified in latest times and if evaluators have 'caught up'.

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